Date: Fri, 15 Jul 94 04:30:25 PDT From: Ham-Digital Mailing List and Newsgroup Errors-To: Ham-Digital-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Ham-Digital@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Ham-Digital Digest V94 #234 To: Ham-Digital Ham-Digital Digest Fri, 15 Jul 94 Volume 94 : Issue 234 Today's Topics: One-way automated digital=bad (3 msgs) The Net and TNC-1's TS-50S function keys Wanted--Link Tech. terminal KEYBOARD Send Replies or notes for publication to: Send subscription requests to: Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Ham-Digital Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/ham-digital". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 01:03:25 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu Subject: One-way automated digital=bad To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu In article wyn@ornl.gov (C. C. Wynn) writes: >In article <199407131310.GAA01894@ucsd.edu> > William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.CR.rockwell.COM writes: > >>it'll be the same argument as with W1AW...there's a schedule, a list of >>frequencies and when it's time for bulletins or code practice or whatever, >>they come on the air ... > >W1AW is not assigned a frequency. They will QSY to not QRM an ongoing QSO. :-) :-) :-) *Sure* they will. They don't even *listen* on the frequency before firing up the kilowatts. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jul 1994 10:40:19 -0400 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!udel!news.intercon.com!news1.digex.net!digex.net!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu Subject: One-way automated digital=bad To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu In article <199407131310.GAA01894@ucsd.edu>, William=E.=Newkirk% wrote: > > let's get all the automatic guys onto a few frequencies - tell everyone where > they are and the fact that the automatic stuff should be constantly busy > should be enough to keep the rational out. > > or is this approach just too simple for everyone? > > no doubt someone will have to build an automatic QRM'er so he can "show 'em". > > bill wb9ivr Put co-ordinated auto-op frequencies into effect immediately, that should appease most everyone, hopefully... Andy N3LCW ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 19:06:35 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp!alanb@network.ucsd.edu Subject: One-way automated digital=bad To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote: : In article wyn@ornl.gov (C. C. Wynn) writes: : > : >W1AW is not assigned a frequency. They will QSY to not QRM an ongoing QSO. : :-) :-) :-) *Sure* they will. They don't even *listen* on the frequency : before firing up the kilowatts. W1AW's experience may be a bad omen for the semi-automatic digital stations. Despite the fact that W1AW only uses one frequency per band, at only certain hours of the day, using a widely-published schedule that rarely changes, and has hundreds of users, there has STILL been a fair amount of bitching and complaining about it. The digital stations will come on in much greater numbers, at random times with no published schedules, with only one pair of users per frequency. (Even if you count each message originator as a "user", it's still less than W1AW.) I expect the bitch level to be +30 or +40 dB. :=) AL N1AL ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jul 1994 10:55:31 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!news.cac.psu.edu!news.pop.psu.edu!psuvax1!news.cc.swarthmore.edu!netnews.upenn.edu!gopher.cs.uofs.edu!triangle.cs.uofs.edu!bill@network.ucsd. Subject: The Net and TNC-1's To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu Has anyone ever put any version of The Net into a TNC-1?? If not, can anyone tell me why not?? bill KB3YV -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves bill@cs.uofs.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jul 94 19:10:34 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!aries!hawley@network.ucsd.edu Subject: TS-50S function keys To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu david@primenet.com (David Dodell) writes: >I have been trying to get documentation on how the function keys on a >TS-50S are emulated from the microphone. While the manual gives >instructions on programming the function keys, the manual does not give >any idea how to duplicate a depression of a function key from the wiring >diagram. >I have had no luck with Kenwood USA, they claim they don't know. I've >sent two FAX's to Kenwood Japan, but no response. >Anyone offer any suggestions? >david The service manual shows the wiring diagram of the mic. I think they use a couple of resistors to vary the voltage (or current) fed back to an A to D to distingush between the various buttons. It's simple, I just don't recall clearly what it was. Chuck Hawley, KE9UW in Urbana, Illinois hawley@aries.scs.uiuc.edu School of Chemical Sciences, Electronic Services University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jul 94 13:55:40 -0500 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.ans.net!mrtnt.ntrs.com!tntvax!rs2@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Wanted--Link Tech. terminal KEYBOARD To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu I am looking for a KEYBOARD for a Link Technologies MC-10 terminal. A used keyboard in good working condition would be fine. Bought the display at a hamfest but it needs a keyboard. -- Richard Steck, W9RS Internet address: steck.richard@ntrs.com Phone: 312-630-6622 Opinions expressed are my own and not those of my employer. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 18:41:12 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!udel!news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!nwnexus!olympus.net!olympus.net!vaughnwt@network.ucsd.edu To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu References , , <1994Jul11.175048.3035@analog.com>i Subject : Re: Higher speed/lower cost? (was Re: PPP to Internet Over Packet Radio) > This sounds like a really interesting product, >but how possible would it to make a kit along these lines, in a much >larger form factor, at perhaps an order of magnitude slower? Could DSP >techniques be used to simplify the problem? > -Matt Why drag our butts? Why settle for a magnitude slower? Why go with 400Mhz? Sure it was hot stuff in the forties as was 1200 baud 10 years ago. How about an S-band spread spectrum(direct synthesis) kit. Something that will enable hams to carry multiple conversations or high speed data streams at once. Dream a little dream. What would be the requirements? Digitized compressed video would be one. Perhaps a minimum of 56k data channel. Digitized voice to be carried over the backbone. Everyone having a personal mailbox or line code for IRC type comms(with the aforementioned video). Help me out here what else would the standard need. I just attended a meeting for distance learning over the internet. Its not there for the majority. We can lead the way. Lets go, get this big ball rolling. William Vaughn vaughnwt@olympus.net "Just plain Bill." ------------------------------ End of Ham-Digital Digest V94 #234 ******************************